He may say that he didn't break any laws but the fact is that he doesn't feel it was wrong to leave his students behind. If they had died I think he would also be telling himself that he has done nothing wrong. In the end there is only one word to describe someone like him and that is coward. He is unfit to be a teacher.
Posted by: Penguin | June 2, 2008 5:57 AM
参考译文:他也许会说他没有犯法,但事实是他不认为撇下他的学生是错误的。如果他们死了,我想他还是会说他没有做错什么。说到底,只有一个词可以形容他,那就是胆小鬼。他不配当老师。
'I didn't intentionally do anything wrong, so why should I feel guilty?'
Wrong or right definitely has a standard, if not the whole world and human would be into a mess.
Posted by: yp | June 2, 2008 9:06 AM
参考译文:“我没有有意做错什么,我干嘛要感到内疚?”
是对是错,一定有个标准。如果没有标准,整个世界就会乱了套。
I wonder if he is not sacked, how will he face his students? If I were his student, I can't respect and trust him ...maybe he should resign, as teacher do have responsibity to protect students and be a model of morality.
Posted by: kaka | June 2, 2008 11:17 AM
参考译文:我在想,要是他没有被开除,他将怎么面对他的学生?如果我是他的学生,我无法尊重他,也不能信任他。或许他应该辞职,因为老师确实有保护学生的责任,做个道德模范。
Even he he did not "break any law", he clearly did not do his moral duty as a teacher.When in school, teachers have the responsibility to look after the safety of their students. In that sense, he surely deserves being sacked for not being fit for the job.
Posted by: spicyhotpot | June 2, 2008 11:43 PM
参考译文:即使他没“违法”,他也明显没有履行作为一个老师的道德义务。在学校,老师有责任照顾他们学生的安全。从这个意义上讲,他因不适合这个工作而被解雇,确属活该。
If on the other hand it's completely true then I would question this teacher's judgement as a teacher and human being - not necessarily the running part which, in a sudden shocking event people sometimes do instinctively - but in so freely and shamelessly admitting it. While a teacher has the children he/she is not just their teacher but is also supposed to be their guardian.
Posted by: Incredulous | June 3, 2008 2:21 AM
参考译文:从另一方面说,如果这个事情千真万确,那么我将质疑这个老师作为老师和人的判断力,倒不一定是因为他跑了,人在遇到突如其来的令人惊恐的情况时有时本能地这样做,只是他不应该这样无所顾忌地、毫无廉耻地承认它。一个老师带着学生的时候,他/她不仅仅是他们的老师,还应该是他们的监护人。
I have been a teacher in the US for 7 years now, in 2 different school districts. Doing what he did would be grounds for dismissal in every school district I am familiar with. We have "disaster drills" with carefully planned courses of action, and democracy or personal preservation don't figure into them. In fact, the contract I signed explicitly stated that school staff are responsible for the safety of the students, and each teacher for his class. Were I to run out of the class and leave the wee tots behind, I might as well keep running because there'd be some angry folks looking to lay a little shoe leather on my behind.
My coworkers and I discussed this at length today; I showed several of them the article online. The man is a fool. I wish that my (elementary school) students had something like the civics class of yore, or perhaps a class on ethics. This assclown would make a good topic for discussion.
Posted by: Jaime Moreno Gonsalves | June 3, 2008 11:25 AM
参考译文:说来我前后在美国两个不同的学区做了7年教师了。在我了解的每个学区,做他这样做的这件事是要被辞退的。我们有精心计划的“灾难演习”,计划中是没有民主或个人自保这些东西的。事实上,我签的合同明确规定,学校员工对学生安全负责,每个老师对他的教学班负责。假设我跑了,把学生扔下,我就得一直不停地跑下去,因为我后面有人会拿皮鞋追着打。
这个问题,我和我的同事今天讨论了好长时间。我给他们好几位看了网上这篇文章。这个人是蠢货。我希望给我的(小学)学生上一些公民课或者道德课,这个蠢驴似的小丑将是一个很好的讨论话题。
Crtiticize as much as you want, but unless you have been in a real life or death situation like a big quake, it is impossible to really know if anyone will behave logically.
His instinct to flee was natural, though yes, i agree that it seemed to skirt his responsibilities as a teacher and a caretaker. His talking about it on the other hand is just pure idiocy.
Posted by: yu888 | June 3, 2008 3:08 PM
参考译文:你尽可以批评,但除非你也身处地震那样的生死悠关的真实处境,是不可能真正弄清人们会不会按逻辑行事。
他逃跑的本能是自然的,当然我也同意作为老师和看护人他逃避他的责任。另外,他谈论这件事真是蠢不可言。
completely unacceptable.
He is in a position of trust , where he is acting as the gardian of the children under his care.
When a teacher accepts a position, there is a minimum requirment to be met as regards protection of the children under your care.
Posted by: john | June 3, 2008 5:52 PM
参考译文:完全不能接受。
他作为他照管的孩子的监护人,他是受到信任的。
当一个人老师接受某个职位,保护你照顾下的孩子的安全是最低的要求。
Mr. Fan himself is the originator of this drama. He wrote a narcissistic, provocative, yet brutally honest remark, defending his fleeing from his students. Although his comment stirred storms in the net, I doubt anybody in the Main Street has ever taken notice. Thus far the MSM simply ignored the story. The newspapers that picked up the story are both local papers, and have quite limited influences on China's public opinions. So I don't see there is any conspiracy in this whole thing.
Here is the first sentence of his remark:"How I wanted to die because I was not born in the US - land of freedom and of human rights!" Is that bizarre? What the heck does the US has anything to do with your fleeing from your students? Turns out it was just the beginning of a grandiose argument on personal freedom, on the virtual of being selfishness. Can anyone stand this magnitude of hypocrisy and idiocy?
What saddens me is that Mr. Fan get it all wrong. He proclaims his admiration for democracy and Christianity, but he really doesn't understand the true meaning of liberty, couldn't tell the difference between self-empowerment and selfishness. He definitely doesn't speak like a Christian, or act like a Christian.
Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 8:05 PM
参考译文:范先生他自己这个戏的原创者。他写一篇自恋的、挑衅的但又极端坦诚的评论,为逃离他的学生辩护。尽管他的言论在网上引起了一场风暴,我还是怀疑街头普通人是不是知道这件事。到目前为止,主流媒体对此采取了视而不见的简单处理方式。刊登这个消息的是地方报纸,这些报纸对中国公众舆论影响非常有限。所以,我不认为这个事件中有什么阴谋。
这是他的评论的第一句:“没有生在美国——自由和人权的土地上,我多想死啊!”是不是荒唐?你撇下学生逃跑跟美国有什么狗屁关系啊?这只是他关于个人自由、自私的长篇大论的开头。有谁能受得了这种虚伪和愚蠢?
让我悲伤的是,范先生全搞错了。他宣称他羡慕民主和基督教,但他真的不懂自由的真正含义,分不清自我授权(self-empowerment)和自私的区别。他说起话来真不像一个基督徒,做起事来也不像一个基督徒。
Hope mr fan is never in a fire and needs a fireman to save his sorry butt..the fireman could shout to mr fan inside..”Sorry..but my sense of self preservation is to great to save you..besides..I didn’t start the fire.”
参考译文:希望范先生永远不要身陷大火,要消防队员来救。消防队员可以对大火里的范喊:“对不起,我的自保感太强了,救不了你。况且,火又不是我点的。”
一个美国公民对此的评论
As a US citizen, I am glad (runner) Fan is not. He would be an embarrassment to his family, his community and the nation as a whole.
Every nation may have its share of cowards but few if any would be so pleased about their cowardice in this country.
Not only would he be fired from his job, he would most likely receive death threats and be driven from his home.
Our nation (and Christianity for that matter) was brought about by the self-sacrifice of thousands of men and women. We did not achieve individual rights without someone paying a price for it.
This self-centered “man” who believes cowardice is a virtue would not be welcome
大体翻译一下
作为一个美国公民,我庆幸范跑跑不是(美国公民)。他会是他的家人,社区乃至整个国家的耻辱。每个国家都有懦夫,但几乎没有哪个国家的懦夫为自己的懦弱而沾沾自喜。他(范跑跑)不仅可能被开除,更有可能受到死亡威胁甚至被驱除出家园 我们的国家和基督教是千万个具有自我牺牲精神的人建立起来的。没有人为此付出代价我们不可能享有个人权利。这个自我为中心相信懦弱是一种美德的“人”是不受欢迎的。
be a teacher.
Posted by: Penguin | June 2, 2008 5:57 AM
参考译文:他也许会说他没有犯法,但事实是他不认为撇下他的学生是错误的。如果他们死了,我想他还是会说他没有做错什么。说到底,只有一个词可以形容他,那就是胆小鬼。他不配当老师。
'I didn't intentionally do anything wrong, so why should I feel guilty?'
Wrong or right definitely has a standard, if not the whole world and human would be into a mess.
Posted by: yp | June 2, 2008 9:06 AM
参考译文:“我没有有意做错什么,我干嘛要感到内疚?”
是对是错,一定有个标准。如果没有标准,整个世界就会乱了套。
I wonder if he is not sacked, how will he face his students? If I were his student, I can't respect and trust him ...maybe he should resign, as teacher do have responsibity to protect students and be a model of morality.
Posted by: kaka | June 2, 2008 11:17 AM
参考译文:我在想,要是他没有被开除,他将怎么面对他的学生?如果我是他的学生,我无法尊重他,也不能信任他。或许他应该辞职,因为老师确实有保护学生的责任,做个道德模范。
Even he he did not "break any law", he clearly did not do his moral duty as a teacher.When in school, teachers have the responsibility to look after the safety of their students. In that sense, he surely deserves being sacked for not being fit for the job.
Posted by: spicyhotpot | June 2, 2008 11:43 PM
参考译文:即使他没“违法”,他也明显没有履行作为一个老师的道德义务。在学校,老师有责任照顾他们学生的安全。从这个意义上讲,他因不适合这个工作而被解雇,确属活该。
If on the other hand it's completely true then I would question this teacher's judgement as a teacher and human being - not necessarily the running part which, in a sudden shocking event people sometimes do instinctively - but in so freely and shamelessly admitting it. While a teacher has the children he/she is not just their teacher but is also supposed to be their guardian.
Posted by: Incredulous | June 3, 2008 2:21 AM
参考译文:从另一方面说,如果这个事情千真万确,那么我将质疑这个老师作为老师和人的判断力,倒不一定是因为他跑了,人在遇到突如其来的令人惊恐的情况时有时本能地这样做,只是他不应该这样无所顾忌地、毫无廉耻地承认它。一个老师带着学生的时候,他/她不仅仅是他们的老师,还应该是他们的监护人。
I have been a teacher in the US for 7 years now, in 2 different school districts. Doing what he did would be grounds for dismissal in every school district I am familiar with. We have "disaster drills" with carefully planned courses of action, and democracy or personal preservation don't figure into them. In fact, the contract I signed explicitly stated that school staff are responsible for the safety of the students, and each teacher for his class. Were I to run out of the class and leave the wee tots behind, I might as well keep running because there'd be some angry folks looking to lay a little shoe leather on my behind.
My coworkers and I discussed this at length today; I showed several of them the article online. The man is a fool. I wish that my (elementary school) students had something like the civics class of yore, or perhaps a class on ethics. This assclown would make a good topic for discussion.
Posted by: Jaime Moreno Gonsalves | June 3, 2008 11:25 AM
参考译文:说来我前后在美国两个不同的学区做了7年教师了。在我了解的每个学区,做他这样做的这件事是要被辞退的。我们有精心计划的“灾难演习”,计划中是没有民主或个人自保这些东西的。事实上,我签的合同明确规定,学校员工对学生安全负责,每个老师对他的教学班负责。假设我跑了,把学生扔下,我就得一直不停地跑下去,因为我后面有人会拿皮鞋追着打。
这个问题,我和我的同事今天讨论了好长时间。我给他们好几位看了网上这篇文章。这个人是蠢货。我希望给我的(小学)学生上一些公民课或者道德课,这个蠢驴似的小丑将是一个很好的讨论话题。
Crtiticize as much as you want, but unless you have been in a real life or death situation like a big quake, it is impossible to really know if anyone will behave logically.
His instinct to flee was natural, though yes, i agree that it seemed to skirt his responsibilities as a teacher and a caretaker. His talking about it on the other hand is just pure idiocy.
Posted by: yu888 | June 3, 2008 3:08 PM
参考译文:你尽可以批评,但除非你也身处地震那样的生死悠关的真实处境,是不可能真正弄清人们会不会按逻辑行事。
他逃跑的本能是自然的,当然我也同意作为老师和看护人他逃避他的责任。另外,他谈论这件事真是蠢不可言。
completely unacceptable.
He is in a position of trust , where he is acting as the gardian of the children under his care.
When a teacher accepts a position, there is a minimum requirment to be met as regards protection of the children under your care.
Posted by: john | June 3, 2008 5:52 PM
参考译文:完全不能接受。
他作为他照管的孩子的监护人,他是受到信任的。
当一个人老师接受某个职位,保护你照顾下的孩子的安全是最低的要求。
Mr. Fan himself is the originator of this drama. He wrote a narcissistic, provocative, yet brutally honest remark, defending his fleeing from his students. Although his comment stirred storms in the net, I doubt anybody in the Main Street has ever taken notice. Thus far the MSM simply ignored the story. The newspapers that picked up the story are both local papers, and have quite limited influences on China's public opinions. So I don't see there is any conspiracy in this whole thing.
Here is the first sentence of his remark:"How I wanted to die because I was not born in the US - land of freedom and of human rights!" Is that bizarre? What the heck does the US has anything to do with your fleeing from your students? Turns out it was just the beginning of a grandiose argument on personal freedom, on the virtual of being selfishness. Can anyone stand this magnitude of hypocrisy and idiocy?
What saddens me is that Mr. Fan get it all wrong. He proclaims his admiration for democracy and Christianity, but he really doesn't understand the true meaning of liberty, couldn't tell the difference between self-empowerment and selfishness. He definitely doesn't speak like a Christian, or act like a Christian.
Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 8:05 PM
参考译文:范先生他自己这个戏的原创者。他写一篇自恋的、挑衅的但又极端坦诚的评论,为逃离他的学生辩护。尽管他的言论在网上引起了一场风暴,我还是怀疑街头普通人是不是知道这件事。到目前为止,主流媒体对此采取了视而不见的简单处理方式。刊登这个消息的是地方报纸,这些报纸对中国公众舆论影响非常有限。所以,我不认为这个事件中有什么阴谋。
这是他的评论的第一句:“没有生在美国——自由和人权的土地上,我多想死啊!”是不是荒唐?你撇下学生逃跑跟美国有什么狗屁关系啊?这只是他关于个人自由、自私的长篇大论的开头。有谁能受得了这种虚伪和愚蠢?
让我悲伤的是,范先生全搞错了。他宣称他羡慕民主和基督教,但他真的不懂自由的真正含义,分不清自我授权(self-empowerment)和自私的区别。他说起话来真不像一个基督徒,做起事来也不像一个基督徒。
Hope mr fan is never in a fire and needs a fireman to save his sorry butt..the fireman could shout to mr fan inside..”Sorry..but my sense of self preservation is to great to save you..besides..I didn’t start the fire.”
参考译文:希望范先生永远不要身陷大火,要消防队员来救。消防队员可以对大火里的范喊:“对不起,我的自保感太强了,救不了你。况且,火又不是我点的。”
一个美国公民对此的评论
As a US citizen, I am glad (runner) Fan is not. He would be an embarrassment to his family, his community and the nation as a whole.
Every nation may have its share of cowards but few if any would be so pleased about their cowardice in this country.
Not only would he be fired from his job, he would most likely receive death threats and be driven from his home.
Our nation (and Christianity for that matter) was brought about by the self-sacrifice of thousands of men and women. We did not achieve individual rights without someone paying a price for it.
This self-centered “man” who believes cowardice is a virtue would not be welcome
大体翻译一下
作为一个美国公民,我庆幸范跑跑不是(美国公民)。他会是他的家人,社区乃至整个国家的耻辱。每个国家都有懦夫,但几乎没有哪个国家的懦夫为自己的懦弱而沾沾自喜。他(范跑跑)不仅可能被开除,更有可能受到死亡威胁甚至被驱除出家园 我们的国家和基督教是千万个具有自我牺牲精神的人建立起来的。没有人为此付出代价我们不可能享有个人权利。这个自我为中心相信懦弱是一种美德的“人”是不受欢迎的。
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